Siemens LME 4 blinks: extraneous light at startup, what to check?

Question

My Siemens LME burner control is giving 4 red blinks and a green-red signal lamp during startup. This happens before the fan even starts, and the unit locks out. What should I check first for extraneous light?

Top answer · Written by InduQT from the fault guide and manufacturer manuals cited below · Oct 28, 2026

A Siemens LME burner control showing 4 red blinks and a green-red signal lamp during startup indicates extraneous light. This means the flame detector reported a flame before any fuel valves opened, which is a startup precondition violation. Depending on when it occurs, it can lead to a non-alterable lockout immediately or after 30 seconds.

Likely causes and checks

1Real flame or glowing fuel after shutdown

Points to it
The flame detector might be seeing an actual flame or glowing fuel in the combustion chamber from a previous shutdown, indicating afterburning.
Check
Look into the combustion chamber for visible flame or afterburning. If flame persists after valves close, isolate the gas and have fuel valves tightness-tested by a qualified technician.

2Ignition spark arcing to the ionization probe

Points to it
The ignition spark could be arcing over to the ionization probe, causing the detector to falsely report a flame.
Check
Check the gap and position of the ignition electrode and probe against the burner manual to ensure the spark cannot arc to the probe.

3Aged or faulty UV detector (QRA)

Points to it
If using a UV-supervised burner, the detector itself might be faulty or aged, reporting a flame even in a cold, dark chamber.
Check
Cover the QRA and check if a flame is still reported. The data sheet describes a UV test for aged cells after a controlled shutdown. Replace a detector that falsely sees light.

4Interference on the detector cable

Points to it
The detector cable might be picking up electrical interference if it's run too close to mains or ignition cables, or if it's too long.
Check
Ensure the detector cable is separate and not run with other cables, and that it is within the permitted length as per the data sheet. Reroute if necessary.

Next check: Start by visually inspecting the combustion chamber for any signs of residual flame or glowing fuel from a previous shutdown. This is often the most direct and easiest initial check for 'extraneous light'.

Work on fuel trains, burners, pressure vessels and electrical equipment must be done by qualified personnel following the manufacturer’s documentation and local codes. Never bypass a safety device or interlock.

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