Siemens LME11 / LME21 / LME22 fault 4: Extraneous light when burner is started up

Siemens LME11 / LME21 / LME22lockoutData sheet CC1N7101en, 20.05.2016

Four red blinks mean the flame detector reported a flame at startup, before the burner control had opened any fuel valve. A startup precondition is that the flame detector is darkened and sees no extraneous light. Extraneous light during the prepurge time (t1) gives a non-alterable lockout; during the waiting time (tw) the start is prevented and a lockout follows after a maximum of 30 seconds. During startup the signal lamp shows green-red for extraneous light.

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When it happens

Where it sits in the burner

Supervised function: Flame supervision.

ComponentSignals to look atHow it fails
Flame rodFlame signalScanner no longer sighted on the flame root; Flame rod or burner ground fault
Flame scanner (UV / IR)Flame signalScanner no longer sighted on the flame root; Detector or amplifier ageing; Electrical noise on signal wiring; Dirty or fogged scanner sight path
Flame amplifier / flame inputFlame signalDetector or amplifier ageing; Electrical noise on signal wiring; Wrong detector, amplifier or configuration
Main safety shutoff valvesMain fuel valve output, Valve proof of closureValve seat leakage or slow closing; Fuel valve not opening fully; Welded, jumpered or miswired contact

Likely causes and checks

1Real flame or glowing fuel after shutdown

Points to it
Flame or afterburning visible in the combustion chamber; lockout follows a shutdown.
Check
Look into the combustion chamber; if flame persists after the valves close, isolate the gas and have the fuel valves tightness-tested by a qualified technician.

2Ignition spark arcing to the ionization probe

Points to it
Probe and ignition electrode close together, or electrodes recently bent or replaced.
Check
The data sheet says to locate the ignition electrode and probe so the spark cannot arc over to the probe; check the gap and position against the burner manual.

3Aged or faulty UV detector (QRA)

Points to it
UV-supervised burner; signal present in a cold, dark chamber.
Check
Cover the QRA and check whether flame is still reported; the data sheet describes a UV test of aged cells after controlled shutdown. Replace a detector that sees light that is not there.

4Interference on the detector cable

Points to it
Detector cable run together with mains or ignition cables, or longer than permitted.
Check
The data sheet requires a separate detector cable, never run with other cables, within the permitted length; reroute it.

Telling it apart

Evidence to collect

Work on fuel trains, burners, pressure vessels and electrical equipment must be done by qualified personnel following the manufacturer’s documentation and local codes. Never bypass a safety device or interlock.

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